True Crime Bullsh**

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Josh sets the stage for a hyper-focused eighth season of True Crime Bullsh**. New connections are made, leading to a better understanding of how all of Israel Keyes's crimes are connected. A plot of land in New Hampshire is explored, as is a rented cabin in upstate New York. And the team makes its way back to Hunters, WA after receiving some critical new information from the FBI. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by Kathleen and Jordan Taylor. And research assistance by Michael Beers, Michelle Tooker, and Shana Wilensky. TRAVEL WITH JOSH: TROVA TRIP to Slovenia https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/slovenia/slovenia-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2027 TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Zenni Optical: Get 15% off your first order at: Zenni.com/Podcast with code PODCAST15. Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. Coveron: Coveron.com/TCB with code TCB for 20% off (for the first 100 users). Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. MUSIC: True Crime Bullsh** Original Soundtrack by The Westeastern. Featured music by: Counting Crows. Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Asch Fish, Heather Horton Whedon, Sherri D, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Sarah Hansen, Melissa MacPherson, SC, Trista, Pink, Jen J, Carol L, H Beth Jones, Tori Yuzik, Dan Del Rossi, David Begley, Lisa, Alecs, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, Sara Cee, J Shay, Kathy Nation, Stay Sea, Carrie, Jordan T, Allison Bergblom Johnson, Melissa LeBlanc, Bethany Heintz, Ally, Chris Stokes, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Molly Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

Go back in time and re-listen to this episode, to prepare you for the season 8 premiere on October 5. We first covered Hunters, Washington back in season two. And while our reporting on it paused, our investigation into it did not. Jordan and an anonymous source have spent years digging into Hunters and the abandoned farmhouse there. And even as we thought there was nothing left to find, new information began pouring in. And continued pouring in as recording and post-production on this episode were happening. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker. PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Nocturne. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Season 8 launches on October 5 and dives into Keyes's upbringing, life, and connections in Washington state and how they impacted and defined Keyes's crimes across the country. We look at new cases, follow-up on past cases, and get into the woods looking for caches and interviewing more people from Keyes's life. PATREON www.patreon.com/studiobothand TROVA TRIP to Slovenia https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/slovenia/slovenia-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2027 TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 SPONSORS • Coveron: Coveron.com/TCB with code TCB for 20% off (for the first 100 users). • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns. • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In Retrospective 5, Josh discusses how a family loss created massive life changes during the creation of TCB season 2. And how the pandemic and Kelly Cochran led to some massive podcast changes, gambles, and fears. 10th Anniversary Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration TROVA TRIP to Slovenia https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/slovenia/slovenia-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2027 TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 PATREON www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS • Coveron: Coveron.com/TCB with code TCB for 20% off (for the first 100 users). • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns. • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In this interview: • The FBI discuss Keyes's competency and psych evals • Keyes details the creation of his silencer • Keyes discusses various accounts of stalking • Keyes shares his grand plan and dreams of doing something big 10th Anniversary Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration TROVA TRIP to Slovenia https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/slovenia/slovenia-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2027 TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 SPONSORS • Coveron: Coveron.com/TCB with code TCB for 20% off (for the first 100 users) • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns. • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In this interview: • Keyes tells the FBI about a New York homicide • Keyes details the Tupper Lake bank robbery • Keyes talks about other active areas in New England • The FBI finds out about the boat 10th Anniversary Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 SPONSORS • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns. • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In this interview: • The FBI detail their four part plan to negotiate their needs and Keyes's • Keyes accidentally hints at several details surrounding his unknown crimes • Keyes grapples with media attention • Keyes starts to spill 10th Anniversary Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 SPONSORS • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns. • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In this interview: • The FBI goes over items seized from Spurr Lane and Constable • Keyes's early years in Neah Bay • Keyes's early crimes in Colville • Keyes's various watercraft and how he used them in crimes • Keyes's using friends as unwitting accomplices • The Washington state caches • Julie Harris • and more 10th Anniversary Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 SPONSORS • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns. • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In Retrospective 4, Josh discusses how massive life changes coalesced with the creation of the first season of TCB. How he isolated himself entirely to both heal and get into the head-spaces of the people he'd spent so much time researching and writing about. Plus, what went into creating the season one finale. 10th Anniversary Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 SPONSORS • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns with code TCBS. • BetterHelp: BetterHelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In Retrospective 3, Josh discusses how 24 harrowing hours changed his life and the course of True Crime Bullsh**. He discusses how an incident re-shaped his vision for the first episode of the podcast, and his view on true crime and its darkness. Plus, the impact of that first episode on listeners, and the impact of those listeners on Josh. 10th Anniversary Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 SPONSORS • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns with code TCBS. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Retrospective 2 takes us to the origin of the investigation; where Josh's interest in storytelling evolved into his obsession of needing to know everything. And it started in a surprising place: a bound book of correspondence between two teenage girls and their landlord. What started as comedic found writing, became a mystery that people could not let go. And as Josh made his way through it, while working on TCB, he learned about investigations and their repercussions. This is parts one and two of The Karen & Ellen Letters, Josh's first full-fledged investigation. 10th Anniversary Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Cast: Sara Stapleton as Karen Sara Kitcher as Ellen Jeff Powell as Mark Matt Peelen as Rob SPONSORS • Boll & Branch: BollAndBranch.com/truecrimebs for 20% off. • Quince: Quince.com/TCBS for free shipping and 356-day returns with code TCBS. • Schedule35: Schedule35.co with promo code TCBS for 15% off your first order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

To celebrate 10 years in podcasting, we're spending the summer going back in time and both highlighting key episodes and telling the stories behind them; you’ll get new behind-the-scenes information about what was happening in life, in various investigations, and in the world that impacted these important episodes and their podcasts. You’ll learn how Josh started podcasting, how he started investigating Israel Keyes, some hilarious and terrifying stories from the road, and some really vulnerable and personal stories. We start our first retrospective at, duh, the beginning. Josh shares how both his podcasting journey and Keyes obsession began. He discusses his time in Seattle and on the Olympic Peninsula, how he ended up on the East Coast, his first deep-dive investigation (not Keyes) and how that led to his second (Keyes). And this kicks off an early episode of his very first show, Our Americana, entitled Van Life. TROVA TRIP to The Galapagos Islands: https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Season finale. TCB will be back in October. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by Michelle Tooker, Shana Wilensky, and Jordan Taylor. Sources include: • KARK.com • 4029TV.com • The Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette SPONSORS: • Factor: 50% poff and free breakfast for a year. • Quince: Free shipping and 265-day returns. • BetterHelp: Get 10% off. • HelloFresh: Get 10 free meals and a free zwilling knife. This episode was made possible by the following Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Robin, Carol, H Beth Jones, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, Sara Cee, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Virginia Williams, Carrie, Jeff, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Melissa Tracchia, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Troccola, Trixie To support the investigation, go to www.patreon.com/studiobothand This episode included music by: Whithe, Sero, LaBon, and Sergey Cheremisinov With featured music by: Sigur Ros Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

The team returns to Texas to look at a case, which Jordan has been following for four years, that involves a suspicious death, an arson, and an abandoned house. And this case may just shed light on some of Keyes's odder travels and some new and unsettling information on the Azle bank robbery. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Jordan Taylor. With editing and writing by Josh Hallmark. Additional research assistance by: Michelle Tooker. TROVA TRIP TO COSTA RICA: https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: • Factor: Get 50% off your first Factor box PLUS free breakfast for 1 year, by using code TCBS50OFF at factor.com/tcbs50off • Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS • Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCB • BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB SOURCES • Houston Police Department Casefile, Case #030249612 • FBI interview with Israel Keyes: 07/12/12 • Harris County Office of Forensic Sciences Report 12-0671 • Houston Fire Department Report 12-0680736 • HOUSTON, TX Weather History | Weather underground. (n.d.). https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KHOU/date/2012-3-9 • Pinkerton, J. (2014, April 5). HPD sergeant fired, 7 other disciplined in murder case probe. Chon. Retrieved May 26, 2025, from https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/HPD-sergeant-fired-7-others-disciplined-in-5377253.php • Pearson, L. (n.d.). Who came up with HPD’s “SL” code that suspended 264K cases? Panel identifies former assistant chief. https://abc13.com/amp/post/houston-police-suspended-cases-what-is-sl-code-lack-of-personnel-donald-mckinney/14822151/ • FBI interview with Israel Keyes: 07/10/2012 • James E. Lankford. (2011). Peak DB SPL of various Firearms (5 Miyara, F. (n.d.). A NOTE ON FIRECRACKER’S NOISE. https://www.fceia.unr.edu.ar/acustica/biblio/firecr1.htm • In J Am Acad Audiology (Vol. 22, pp. 93–103). https://www.caohc.org/UserFiles/fileShot%20of%20Prevention%20extra%20handout.pdf • Miyara, F. (n.d.). A NOTE ON FIRECRACKER’S NOISE. https://www.fceia.unr.edu.ar/acustica/biblio/firecr1.htm • Azele Police Dept Case # 2012-961 Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Robin, Carol, H Beth Jones, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Trocola, Trixie, Melissa Tracchia. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

A case the team has been looking into for over four years, makes its podcast debut; where a crime in an Israel Keyes hotspot eerily matches a chapter from one of his favorite books. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Michelle Tooker. Additional research, editing, and writing by Josh Hallmark. Research assistance by: Shana Wilensky and Jordan Taylor. PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Factor: Get 50% off your first Factor box PLUS free breakfast for 1 year, by using code TCBS50OFF at factor.com/tcbs50off BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCB Cornbread Hemp: Get 30% off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS SOURCES https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/unsolved-jeffrey-mitchell-murder-sacramento-17382062.php https://www.facebook.com/share/1GyTUQpCYZ/ https://www.dailydemocrat.com/2006/10/29/link-between-van-deputy-explored/?clearUserState=true https://www.abc10.com/article/news/crime/unsolved-california-wife-of-murdered-deputy-shares-her-hope-for-justice-and-how-she-keeps-jeffrey-mitchells-legacy-alive/103-9e1af8e8-984b-4c1a-b69f-ec7cc64b9e85 https://ohp.parks.ca.gov/listedresources/detail/575 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/238696800/jeffrey\_vaughn-mitchell https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article2581679.html https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sacbee/name/allan-shubert-obituary?id=13658767 https://unresolved.me/deputy-jeffrey-mitchell https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/sacramento-county-woman-vanished-2010-homicide-suspect-arrested/ https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sacbee/name/allan-shubert-obituary?id=13658767 Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Robin, Carol, H Beth Jones, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Trocola, Trixie. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Josh and the team discuss how Israel Keyes used infrastructure maps to scout, hide and/or bury his caches and victims. This may just be the key to solving his crimes. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by Kathy Nation, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker. This episode featured Kathy Nation, Jordan Taylor, Michelle Tooker, and Shana Wilensky. PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Factor: Get 50% off your first Factor box PLUS free breakfast for 1 year, by using code TCBS50OFF at factor.com/tcbs50off BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Cornbread Hemp: Get 30% off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS Music by: Sonic Yard. Featured music by: The Foundry Field Recordings Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Dan del Rossi, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Trocola, Trixie. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

Josh and team dissect various information and semantics surrounding Keyes's male-female couple. They circle back to Eugene Hyatt and Kami Vollendroff, and then deep-dive the disappearance of a Spokane couple. Then new information from a friend of Keyes gives the team a new perspective not on just the male-female couple and the vicitm ruled accidental, but potentially all of Keyes's unknown victims. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With research by: Kathleen S. and Jordan Taylor PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand RESOURCES NAMUS The Charley Project Pacificorps.com LowImpacthydro.org Damsafety.org The Washington state digital archives The Spokesman Review SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Cornbread Hemp: Get 30% off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Sero. Featured music by: Patrick Watson Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

The FBI releases some surprising new information obtained from Keyes, including more maps. Josh begins connecting a handful of those maps to facts, theories, tips, and potential victims. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With research by: Jordan Taylor, Michelle Tooker, and Kathleen S. TROVA TRIP to ICELAND Learn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand RESOURCES NAMUS The Charley Project SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Cornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Music by: LaBon. Featured music by: Sarah Belkner Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

In light of new revelations about Keyes's childhood and time in Eastern Washington, we further explore his upbringing, religious history, and his family's beliefs; which all lead us back to that farmhouse in Hunters, Washington. And from there, we try to make sense of what happened on April 2, 2005. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With research by: Jordan Taylor And additional research by: Michelle Tooker and Shana Wilensky. TROVA TRIP to ICELAND Learn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand RESOURCES https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1997/jun/17/cheyne-kehoe-turns-himself-in-brother-still-on/https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/influential-christian-identity-pastor-dies/https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/christian-identity/https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity-movementhttps://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/christian-identity-movement-analyzing-its-theologicalhttps://califias.blogspot.com/2014/10/art-bulla-and-church-of-jesus-christ.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliven_Bundy SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Cornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Music by: Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Nocturne. Featured music by: Joan as Police Woman Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

A childhood friend of Israel's comes forward to discuss his time in Colville, Christian Identity, the Keyes family, Israel's early crimes, and more. This episode was written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. TROVA TRIP to ICELAND Learn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Cornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Featured music by: Kate Dalton. Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen Studer, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

A childhood friend of Israel's comes forward to discuss his time in Colville, Christian Identity, the Keyes family, Israel's early crimes, and more. This episode was written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. TROVA TRIP to ICELAND Learn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Cornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Music by: Denhollander. Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen Studer, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

We first covered Hunters, Washington back in season two. And while our reporting on it paused, our investigation into it did not. Jordan and an anonymous source have spent years digging into Hunters and the abandoned farmhouse there. And even as we thought there was nothing left to find, new information began pouring in. And continued pouring in as recording and post-production on this episode were happening. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker. TROVA TRIP to ICELAND Learn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Cornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Music by: Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Nocturne. Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen Studer, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey Deatly, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.

Josh and Michelle Tooker examine Keyes's comments about and references to abducting and murdering couples. They take a look at what exactly that might mean, follow-up on previously covered cases, and take a look at new ones. And then they hone in on what the team may have been overlooking all along. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Michelle Tooker. It was edited and post-produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky and Jordan Taylor. TROVA TRIP to ICELAND Learn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREON This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Cornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS Music by: Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Nocturne. Featured song by: Peter & Kerry Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen Studer, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey Deatly, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Josh follows up on a new tip from FBI Special Agent Ted Halla. It takes him to familiar ground, both literally and in cases he's looked into previously. This new tip, with some research and fascinating conversations, compels Josh to some interesting and shocking conclusions. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Music by: Radical Face, Odyssey, and 9 Moons. Featured song by: Hannah Cohen. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, DeWayne C, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Pink, SC, Bethany Heintz, Michael Randall, Ashley Kupin, Carrie, Kathy Nation, Emily Paine, Megan Inman, Lauren Ferri, Carol, Robin, Shelly, Sabrina Abbott, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Trista, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Tori Myers, Nichole, and Lydia Rodarte Quayle. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Josh goes over the investigation into Israel Keyes's death; including what was found in his cell, what led to it, and how it happened. Plus new information opens an online can of worms, and sends Josh to Washington state. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBS Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Music by: Radical Face, Sero, Helvv Kryd, and Nocturne. Featured song by: Stars. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, DeWayne C, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Pink, SC, Bethany Heintz, Michael Randall, Ashley Kupin, Carrie, Kathy Nation, Emily Paine, Megan Inman, Lauren Ferri, Carol, Robin, Shelly, Sabrina Abbott, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Trista, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Tori Myers, Nichole, and Lydia Rodarte Quayle. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In the season 7 premiere, Josh goes over a long list of significant new evidence, answers a few big questions, and asks plenty more new questions. A picture of a woman found in Keyes's car paints a very clear picture of some of his activity. New maps, journals, writings, and more set the stage for an eye-opening season. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS: Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBS BetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCB Music by: Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Lee Rosevere, Jozeque. Featured song by: Thom Yorke. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, DeWayne C, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Pink, SC, Bethany Heintz, Michael Randall, Ashley Kupin, Carrie, Kathy Nation, Emily Paine, Megan Inman, Lauren Ferri, Carol, Robin, Shelly, Sabrina Abbott, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Trista, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Tori Myers, Nichole, and Lydia Rodarte Quayle. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season. SPONSORS: BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season. SPONSORS: BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season. SPONSORS: BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season. SPONSORS: BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season. SPONSORS: BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season. SPONSORS: Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season. SPONSORS: Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Last week, Tim, Lance, Greg, and Lou announced a new lead in the Brianna Maitland case. So, Josh sat down to get the new information, discuss its potential implications, and see how it's moving the investigation into Brianna's disappearance forward. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

The season six finale is over a decade in the making; Josh sits down with FBI Special Agent Ted Halla to discuss the Keyes investigation, share new information and ideas, rule out potential victims, and develop our clearest look yet at the details surrounding 5 of Keyes's victims. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Featuring: FBI SA Ted Halla. Sound editing by: Darron Wood of the Defense Diaries podcast. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Sero. Featured song: The Museum by Half Waif Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Josh continues his look into the strange disappearance of Roger Jung. The team analyzes tips, reviews the Keyes timeline, data mines, and gets some help from the Everett Police Department. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Kim K. Sound editing by: Darron Wood of the Defense Diaries podcast. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Trova Trip to Chile & Argentina Music by: William Hellfire, HIVE, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov. Featured song by: Sunriver Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

The team deep-dives a Washington State case that has come up time and time again over the years. New case files, new leads, and a strange online comment in a very cold case turn a mysterious disappearance on its head. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Research assistance by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Kim K. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Trova Trip to Chile & Argentina Music by: William Hellfire, Itai Argaman, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov. Featured song by: Katie Herzig Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Josh receives an email. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. This episode featured: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Joshua and Dakota from Somewhere in the Pines. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand YouTube After Show Trova Trip to Chile & Argentina Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov. Featured song by: Kashka Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As the investigation into Marble Arvidson's disappearance heats up, it takes Josh and the team to a second nearby disappearance with some overwhelming connections to Keyes. And a theory the team considered several years ago, rears its very ugly head. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research assistance by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker. Resources included: • https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2011/10/19/police-search-for-missing-shelburne-woman/ • https://digital.nepr.net/news/2016/08/29/hurricane-irene-its-been-five-years-since-shelburne-falls-building-sailed-away/ • https://www.wwlp.com/news/hurricane-irene-remembered-in-franklin-county-five-years-later/ This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, La Bon, Yehezkel Rez, Dan Mayo, and Parhelion. Featured song by: The National Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

Supplemental files in the Marble Arvidson case take the team on a strange journey. New interviews with Marble's friends shine a light on who he was and where he might have gone on the day he vanished. And that information shines a new light not just on Keyes, but four other disappearances in the area. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky. And research assistance by: Michelle Tooker. This episode features: Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, La Bon, and Radical Face. Featured song: "I Follow Rivers" by: Marika Hackman Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

As the team deep-dives the Mark Oldbury & Jimmy Tidwell cases, Josh develops a timeline, and Kaz finds something important in Fort Worth, Texas. Check out the line-up and buy tickets for the Berkshire Podcast Festival: www.berkshirepodcastfestival.com Use promo code FALLINTOTHESOUND for 10% your Berkshire Podcast Festival tickets. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker. And research assistance by: Kim K and Shana Wilensky. This episode features: Shana Wilensky, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Lee Rosevere, Fields of Ohio, and Wings for Louise. Featured song: "My Hands on the Water" by: Amanda Bergman Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

New FOIA files, sightings, information, and the LaPlace cache take us back to Keyes's February trip to Texas and Louisiana. A fresh perspective on the disappearances of Mark Oldbury and Jimmy Tidwell help us shape a new timeline and process new discoveries. Join the YouTube After Show on Thursday at 9pm Eastern here. Join Josh in Chile & Argentina on the incredible wine-tasting Trova Trip Check out the line-up and buy tickets for the Berkshire Podcast Festival Use promo code FALLINTOTHESOUND for 10% your Berkshire Podcast Festival tickets. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker. And research assistance by: Kim K and Shana Wilensky. This episode features: Christina Alverson, Shana Wilensky, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Sergey Cheremisinov, Yehezkel Raz, and Radical Face. Featured music by: Morgan Harper-Jones Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In Louisiana, our investigation into Israel Keyes changes forever. This is a crossover episode with True Crime Garage and Somewhere in the Pines. We recommend listening to all four episodes. Join the YouTube After Show on Thursday at 9pm Eastern here This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Kim K, Joshua Ash, and Dakota Williams. This episode featured: Joshua and Dakota from the Somewhere in the Pines podcast This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Chris Haugen, Sergey Cheremisinov, Yehezkel Raz, and Radical Face. Featured music by: The Be Good Tanyas Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.

In our final episode before the mid-season break, we breakdown our discoveries in Constable, including new details that eerily connect to old research. Then the teams behind TCB and Somewhere in the Pines all meet for the first time and discuss where they're going and where they've been. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Kim K, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky. This episode featured: Joshua and Dakota from the Somewhere in the Pines podcast Kim K. Jordan Taylor Shana Wilensky Michelle Tooker Resources included: • vintageaerial.com • The Charley Project • NAMUS Trova Trip: Come with us to Chile & Argentina! This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire and Radical Face. Featured music by: My Brightest Diamond Sponsored by: • BetterHelp / www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. • Green Chef / www.greenchef.com/truecrimebs50 with promo code "TrueCrimeBS50" for 50% off, plus 20% off your next two months. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, Hailey Ziegert John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh-the-israel-keyes-investigation--3588169/support.